NMEA setup and review

This is a review and how to for NMEA setup from the engine, battery and devices.

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When searching about NMEA I found conflicting information and it seemed like a spiderweb at first. Luckily, I ordered an NMEA kit from Golden Channels (Marine Wire Cables Mounts - Golden Channels Home) and had a great experience. Eric was extremely helpful.

Why I chose them is that they make shorter engine cables and also can do custom lengths. The stock Tohatsu cable is 20 feet, which is way too much cable for my Whipray. I did not want excess cables coiled up in my stern storage.

Eric made me an 8 foot cable, and also a shorter battery drop cable, then a 6 footer to run to my Simrad. He also guided me on how to make the right connections.

I’ve included some pics of the kit below. Worked flawlessly.

The biggest challenge was getting the engine drop cable ran through to the engine with all the other cables. Luckily, there was one last spot in the grommet, but it was a tough squeeze.

A few points:

I did a dry run to make sure it all worked before running everything in its permanent spot. This included wiring directly to the battery instead of my power hub.

The engine has to be running for data to be sent.

My Simrad allows me to configure what info I want on the side overlay - this allows me to watch my navigation and also my engine data at the same time. Extremely important when jacked all the way up - I can see my engine temperature. Amazing how 1" can raise the temp 20 to 30 degrees.

Here is the kit:

An important point, probably the most important, is that NMEA works on a backbone / bus system. The beginning and the end must be terminated. Off the backbone you run drop cables to your devices, and from your engine, but the system must be powered. I read not to use the same battery as the engine battery on some other sites, but that is a misconception. It can be ran to the starting battery, but the power should be fused. I ran to my power block and used a 5A fuse as recommended by Eric.

The engine drop is on the left, the battery drop in the middle, and the drop my Simrad on the right. I have another pic lower down that shows these parts in detail. The series of these connections make the “backbone.”

Next is the male engine plug located in the electrical box near the front of the engine. It is tight, but I was able to connect and tuck it back in.

And the female end of the engine drop cable - this plugged into the above, then was ran through the grommet with the harness, throttle cables, etc.

Next is where my Simrad is located. This console was from the Skiff Shop, and I modified it to make it sturdier by bonding star board under the fiberglass. I did not punch any holes in the console shelf, the cables are ran to the side and tucked away. I did have to add a switch for GPS, which was quite fun considering how thick the original side console is. Luckily my dremmel made it easy for me.

Now a little more detail - below is a kit from Tohatsu.

1 - the engine drop
2 - the battery drop (again, must be powered)
3 and 4 - terminator (each end must be terminated to close the data feed)
5 - NMEA “T” connections - this allows the backbone to the extended, allows for a drop to be connection, and then termination.
6 - this is a Tohatsu gauge that has NMEA, but this could be any device - a GPS, fuel level sensor, etc. This is shown as an example, it is not required.

Note, this backbone can be as long as you want it with numerous devices - this example is the smallest and easiest example. A longer backbone cable could be ran off #5, but it would require a T connection and terminator as shown.

Another important point - the power, engine drop and devices can be any order.

Hope this helps. And here is a link directly to Golden Channel’s NMEA page: NMEA Components & Starter Kits Archives - Golden Channels

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And here is a pic of my ride:

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Here are some questions and answers:

Q: Ive been wanting to install NMEA on my 50hp Tohatsu and Simrad….but was a little intimidated about doing it myself. This simplifies things. If I may ask…what was the cost of the kit? On the website…is $150 about right?

A: That’s it! Comes with all the parts you need to make the install easy. Reach out to Eric if you have questions, cool guy and was very helpful.


Q: Any idea of the minimum-sized outboard this capability is included on? Guessing my 20hp Mercury might be too low-end…

A: Depends on the year and model, but most newer models have it. Check the specs on your engine.


Q: I have been looking at his type of network for a while but have not settled on a components provider for my Suzuki/Lowrance combo. It always seemed more complicated than described but its good to hear it was a simple setup. I noticed that Golden Channels does not provide a Zuke option but there are interface cables out there so I may have to build my own network.

A: Reach out to Golden Channels, they may be able to source the cable.


Q: Talked to Eric and the Suzuki harness is going live on the site. As the Zuke cable interface is unique, they have to source it from Suzuki. This dude is awesome, he turned this around in less than 24 hours!!

A: Not a question, but worth mentioning!


Q: Will your regular gauges still work if I hook up my SIMRAD?

A: Note, the answer below is from another user on the ex-site, including the diagram and parts.

Yes, the original gauges still work. In my case, I actually used the NMEA connection that went to the gauge to convert the Yamaha plug into a standard NMEA through the use of a new hub. I then plugged the gauge back into the hub and used a Yamaha Gateway to get the standard NMEA connection. Here is my first draft of what I ended up doing to make it work:

That was an early diagram. Ultimately, I went with the Yamaha Gateway in lieu of the the Command Link to NMEA cable from BOE. Using the cable would have been the most economical, but going with the Gateway gets you a Yamaha page on your Simrad and looks factory Yamaha (although I never use it and it’s pretty much a waste). For anything Yamaha not listed above, here are the part numbers:

Item # Description Qty
6Y8-82582-01-00 2 PIN CAP ASSEMBLY 6Y8-82582-01-00 1​
6Y8-85371-01-00 GRAY MAIN BUS TERMINATOR RESISTOR CAP 6Y8-85371-01-00 1​
6Y8-82582-11-00 4 PIN CAP ASSEMBLY 6Y8-82582-11-00 1​
6Y8-82521-11-00 2 FT PIGTAIL BUS WIRE 6Y8-82521-11-00 1​
6YG-8A2D0-00-00 COMMAND LINK PLUS AND COMMAND LINK N2K GATEWAY 6YG-8A2D0-00-00 1​
6Y8-81920-01-00 3 PORT MULTI-HUB ASSEMBLY 6Y8-81920-01-00 1​

Q: I would like to order from Golden Channels but I’m not stoked about only being able to email them for correspondence.

A: Email him first asking for a call - he called me quickly and we talked through it. He’s a small shop, but a good guy who will help you figure it out. Or call West Marine. They staff a call center, but you won’t get an answer worth a crap.


Q: Do you also have to establish separate power connection for the device connecting to the network or does it get its power from the network?

A: The entire bus does need power. There is a 12V cable to run directly to the battery. I read some posts that said that NMEA shouldn’t be hooked to the primary battery. Rubbish. It is low voltage and should be fused. No issues doing it.


Q: I have a 60mfs as well!! How did you remove the rubber engine grommet to get the NMEA connect through to the engine? Thanks

A: There are 10mm bolts holding the grommet in place. Remove those and you should be able to remove it and open it up and find an open slot.

Great info! I wish I had it a few months ago. Total nightmare sourcing everything I needed to add it to my boat.

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Great info, Thank you for posting when i do a repower I’m looking to setup the NEMA as well.

Where did and how did you mount the Backbone/Bus in the whip?

In a Tohastu setup what is teh advantage of the NEMA tohatsu gauges? Can i still use the old style or do i need to replace?

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I mounted my backbone in the starboard aft hatch near the battery terminal block under the cap. It is out of the way and bundled up with the other wires.

The Tohatsu image with the numbered components shows all the parts needed. The gauge is just a NMEA device as an example. It could be a GPS, fuel tank monitor, water pressure sensor, lights, etc…. anything that is NMEA compatible.

Tohatsu has digital gauges that will show some of the engine info, but not all. I do not use an NMEA gauge, I rely on my Simrad unit. If I had the choice, I may not even have an analog gauge on my next skiff. NMEA is just too nice.

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I have added the Fuel Data Manager and also a Water Pressure sensor to my setup. I’ll get the details of those added, but will probably make another post about them. Both have been valuable.

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Very helpful–thanks so much for posting. We’ll be sure to pin this one.

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Here’s my NMEA screen minus the left side which just shows fuel level and battery charge percentage. I may tweak some but I like it as it is so far. Golden Channels is much more simple than all the conglomerated and basically obsolete wiring harnesses and hubs. The biggest perk for me was getting all data to my screen with minimal wiring and the ability to also use my CommandLink gauges at the same time without all the extra junk you would have to rig otherwise.

The absolute biggest perks other than the system is the owner is super easy to contact and guarantees what he sells you will work even when he doesn’t know your ability to install the system yourself. It’s all custom per application if you need it!

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